why would such talented and experienced guys (who have spent time in BAS before) - want to play against newbs at start of season in 2C?

you have been called out... +44 is that really fun??

Johnny wooooo has a small penis - he has to compensate somehow...

lol.... lets all move to 2c to suprise blaze fc

	CurtisCooper wrote:
	Johnny wooooo has issues - he has to compensate somehow...

OH ok so he figures hammering out-of-shape soccer newbs with double digit scores will fix that?

You know something webguru, I didn't pay much attention to the teams in the lower divisions during the season. Only in the last couple weeks have I noticed who actually plays on these teams and I 100% agree with you.

Admin, you know who these guys are, what is the deal? What if I wanted to take Thames down just because we wanted to relax a little, you wouldn't let us!!
So why are these teams who have proven talent, and have already been top of their leagues before allowed to compete so far down the list?

mb7 wrote:

You know something webguru, I didn't pay much attention to the teams in the lower divisions during the season. Only in the last couple weeks have I noticed who actually plays on these teams and I 100% agree with you. Admin, you know who these guys are, what is the deal? What if I wanted to take Thames down just because we wanted to relax a little, you wouldn't let us!! So why are these teams who have proven talent, and have already been top of their leagues before allowed to compete so far down the list?

I dunno, mb7. I've lost sleep over that question over the years. The only thing I've been able to come up with is that it boils down to what kind of moral or ethical qualities are present in the person running the team. Maybe fear of failure also comes into it??? What I really question are the high level teams that throw a couple of pylons on the roster to justify their presence in a lower division.

admin wrote:

So why are these teams who have proven talent, and have already been top of their leagues before allowed to compete so far down the list? I dunno, mb7. I've lost sleep over that question over the years. The only thing I've been able to come up with is that it boils down to what kind of moral or ethical qualities are present in the person running the team. Maybe fear of failure also comes into it??? What I really question are the high level teams that throw a couple of pylons on the roster to justify their presence in a lower division.

Whats more is it is a downer for the growth of the game. Here is how:
1) dude watches a little Premier League action or perhaps even the local TFC Brands
2) dude loves it
3) dude fancies himself a futboler
4) dude joins BAS as a 'walk-on' with 15 or so other dudes sharing the same enthusiasm
5) dude plays FCUK and gets shellacked Throtled pounded crushed owned spanked ( you get the idea) by BLAZE FC 9-0
6) dude goes home depressed
7) dude quits team before Canada day
8 ) dude starts drinking more
9) dude looses his job
10) dude looses his k-car because he cant make payments
11) dude looses girl because he she wont date a dude with no car
12) dude drinks more
13) dude enters rehab
14) dude leaves rehab
15) dude relapses
16) dude gets disowned by his family
17) dude is the guy you see when you are getting on the Gardiner Expressway with a cardboard sign that says 'will eat my own boogers for money' (or something sad like that)
18 ) dude ponders how far he has fallen
19) dude realizes it is because he lost his manhood on the pitch to BLAZE FC and lost his mokuteki in the same instant
20) dude hates soccer
21) Canada looses Honuduras in soccer

its a vicious cycle... sad really...

and all because stacked teams are afraid to run up against teams that might be able to match their skill and ability...

...and it's "dude's" fault that it rained nearly every Sunday this summer, too.

mb7 wrote:

You know something webguru, I didn't pay much attention to the teams in the lower divisions during the season. Only in the last couple weeks have I noticed who actually plays on these teams and I 100% agree with you. Admin, you know who these guys are, what is the deal? What if I wanted to take Thames down just because we wanted to relax a little, you wouldn't let us!! So why are these teams who have proven talent, and have already been top of their leagues before allowed to compete so far down the list?

LOL, I have actually questioned it before. We started out in the lower divisions, but now prefer playing at a higher division for Outdoor. Indoor is a hit or miss as many of our younger guys go away for school.

Come on guys!

Look at it from the other side before you raise stink. Being in Division 2 for some time I have seen this part of the league get better and better each and every year. My winter 2007 team (I believe that was the year we won it) is by far a weaker team than the one I'm constructing this year. Will I win the division??? I'll say no.
You can only guess what everyone else is doing - chances are, with each passing season your competition is bulking up just as much, maybe even more than you.
There is also something to be said about kicking the living snot out of the teams in your division before you move up. That way you ensure success in the next division. Last season, SPURS decided to make the jump from D2A indoor going to D1 indoor. We got killed - which was not fun, and I lost a couple of guys because of that - Lesson learned.

I can go on and on about this topic - things like team dynamics / player characteristics etc, etc... but don't want to type any more...

CurtisCooper wrote:

Come on guys! Look at it from the other side before you raise stink. Being in Division 2 for some time I have seen this part of the league get better and better each and every year. My winter 2007 team (I believe that was the year we won it) is by far a weaker team than the one I'm constructing this year. Will I win the division??? I'll say no. You can only guess what everyone else is doing - chances are, with each passing season your competition is bulking up just as much, maybe even more than you. There is also something to be said about kicking the living snot out of the teams in your division before you move up. That way you ensure success in the next division. Last season, SPURS decided to make the jump from D2A indoor going to D1 indoor. We got killed - which was not fun, and I lost a couple of guys because of that - Lesson learned. I can go on and on about this topic - things like team dynamics / player characteristics etc, etc... but don't want to type any more...

Decent points, CuCoo, but for every high(er) level Div 2 team that takes a chance on Div 1 (like you did), there are 10 others that are very good, but too complacent and as you know first hand, that makes it difficult to construct a viable Div 1 program.

I hear you ADMIN but I also see the other side of the coin. You can say to yourself ... "wow, I got a great D and wicked forwards but a good half of my Midfield's are weaker than the average." Being honest with yourself is always a good thing - not only for you, but for the team as well. You don't want to go into another division and have a weak player (or players). THEY will be the lightning rod of the team if you don't do well. I know this because I've seen it on my team a couple of times.

I like very little "drama" on my team.. no time for it.

Also - I'm sure none of have thought about this... THIS has happened to me this year.

About two weeks before the outdoor season started, my team was going to be very hoo-hum... I had my core of players and a couple of drop outs. I had some open spots and was tryin to figure out how I was going to fill the spots. WELL... The soccer gods shone brightly on Captain Curtis and I was presented with about 5 outstanding players from another team. I instantly knew this team was gooing to be a good one and thought I'd do very well.

and so far I'm doing quite well... Anyone (word deleted by admin)'n about us???


Jhonny Wooo - you do what you think is right. Only you know what's going on with your team. People who bring this up just maybe jealous of your success.

CurtisCooper wrote:

I hear you ADMIN but I also see the other side of the coin. You can say to yourself ... "wow, I got a great D and wicked forwards but a good half of my Midfield's are weaker than the average." Being honest with yourself is always a good thing - not only for you, but for the team as well. You don't want to go into another division and have a weak player (or players). THEY will be the lightning rod of the team if you don't do well. I know this because I've seen it on my team a couple of times.

yeah fine go to another division just not 2C - if you have 'great D' and 'wicked forwards' your just going to demoalize those poor schleps who are new to the game. Have some stones!!

It is not fun getting beaten like a red headed step child.

From my opinion as a "poor schlep who is new to the game" I dont think it is a downer for the growth of the game.
We played FCUK and Blaze in the first 3 weeks of our season, actually we also had United and Chelski (all promoted during the season) for our first four games ever as an outdoor team. We are a team still building and adding parts and have few players who had much/any experience and predictably got beat in all 4 games. Getting pasted in 2 and losing respectably in the other 2. It certainly opened our eyes and gave us a strong idea of how we wanted to play.
For teams like us we can learn alot from these games if we can keep focused. I would certainly say those early season games helped us later in the year in wins against Cheeze and Sporting Brampton(cup) and a draw against x-calibur. And while we didnt win a game in the tournament we were terribly unluckey against Cheeze and Sporting and then had a weakened side/nothing to play for against Diesel.
Certainly seemed like 3 of the bottom 4 from 2c picked up a lot along the year. I know my team was certainly a lot better near the end of the year and Goodfellas went to the final and Diesel get a draw against cheeze in the tournament.
I think all those teams improved much quicker then they would have if we had not had such tough competiton early in the year.
So dont think all teams that are getting beat early in the season are full of players feeling anything like dude from your story.... we certainly grew as a team during the year and are looking forward to how much better we can hopefully get.

You guys make it sound as if FC UK ran away with the league, when in fact we really didn't.

At the half way point of the season we were in 3rd place, the two teams ahead of us were moved up a division. The division title came down to the last game which ended in a 6-6 tie. We won the semi finals and the finals by a score of 1-0, with the final game being decided by a penalty.

And I don't remember this much complaining when Armada II went 11-0-1 and +56 in indoor last winter.

Also, we signed up for Div 2 and were placed in Div 2C. We asked to be moved up when we saw we were placed in Div 2C but our request was turned down.