so what u are saying is that the player actually hit the ref, and i certainly hope what happened between the two teams after is NOT the reasoning for this comment, becaause he never made a move to headbutt him at all, because i was right there and saw none of that and please lets remember someones could be banned from all soccer for comments such as these defending the ref, because unless u were one of two players one on my team on one on yours you were not even close enough to make that kind of comment because i was right there

Hearsay and i am pretty sure i saw, and the intent was there, are first of all not reasons for banning someone , and secondly not call for hospitalization, and if people thought like you DEEK85 then people should be charged with assault everyday for there thoughts because there are many times in a day that we want to punch someone, and the if someone cuts you off and you hit someone its your fault by the way not the one cutting off even though we want it to be there fault just like the hitting from behind law in a car no matter how badly someone slams on there brakes if you hit them its your fault

This is nothing to do with what happened later. Nothing to do with me. I am new to this team and was told a little about the sh*t that happens but I ain't the type of player to jump on a field and bring my feelings unless I totally understand the reason it is all happening. I was close enough to the incident tho to voice my opinion that the intent was there and as I said the contact may not have been heavy, but it did touch.

You see these types of clashes in football all the time and each time the result is the same red card! At the same time tho this is recreational and the ref has no help deciding when this type of incident happens. He received medical attention so unfortunately the player involved has to be investigated. Hopefully his ban is not as serious and it is contained within the league and he receives a session long ban, but he has to be held accountable for his actions.

Good, he should be banned from soccer as all jackasses who have any intent to hurt anyone in this league. You pay to enjoy yourself, not bully or bully someone. You are part of a community run league in the city you represent and most importantly you represent yourself. At what point do you take a step back and say 'holy shite, this is a rec league filled with people here to have fun and I have crossed that line and made it not fun' Give your head a shake.

This ref now has a journey ahead of him, he'll make less income on a disability allowance than he would actively working for his employer, be back and forth to doctors for progress assessments and most importantly it will affect his family and his involvement in a game he obviously loves.... yet you're worried about your friend / teammates (rec) soccer career??? Give your head a shake.

Lastly, why are you so interested in defending such pish? If this was a player on my team no matter how good or bad (even up to and including myself) I would throw him off my team with his money back and tell him never to come back. There is a certain degree of being human and taking others accords into consideration obviously this player and yourself threw that moral out the door when the concept that this was okay was grasped. Give your head a good long hard shake and find out what actually is the important matter here. This affects a person.... a real life existing person.

That ref did not deserve this. Imagine this was someone who meant a lot to you and loss those things, would your opinion not change then?

Hey Kylo, I hope by what I said before that you dont think I am defending this guy? I still stand by my opinion that the intent is enough to punish. And injure in this case.

Not at all.

you guys are not reading anything that i am saying, i am not defending anyone that assaults a ref but i am am defending someone who is being persecuting for doing something he did not do, and to go as far as disabilty, come on dude give me a break, he was perfectly fine and this is ridiculous he even called the police three days later for god sakes, if i saw one of my players assault a ref KYLO, your dam right i would kick him off the team and i would not give him his money back, but i am defending someone who needs defending because sometimes in this world we live in people, are blamed for things they have not done so if i have to be the one to stick up for him then i will, this is the biggest pile of bull i have ever seen a ref shovel, and i can say with all honesty that in my life i have always treated refs very well but in this case he is blowing this way out of proportion, and why is it that a ref can put his face right up to a plyers as in nose to nose but no one ever has anything to say about that, maybe the so called contact to his retna or whatever was caused by contact made by him hmmmmm!!!!oh yeah nothing wrong with that, rec soccer, competitive or whatever this is terrible cause nothing happened other than a bunch of words

The player was heading away from the field then headed back to the ref. Who is at fault????? Go a step further one of the other players grabbed the ref by the arm. Another red card offence!!! The ref had every right to abandon that game in fear for his safety..

your 100 percent right a player did grab the refs arm, and right he should have been booked and he was completely wrong for doing that it was stupid and childish and it was even brought up in the chanmgeroom, i am only a reserve on the team and will not be playing again for this reason that i dont play soccer to get into situations as they did, but i am only defending the apparent headbutt incident and once agian i am not condoning any actions made by that team but i am also disgusted about the exxageration of this incident of the player who is be blamed for the hospitalization of the ref. Grabbing the arm was an idiotic move in all ways..... yes and so was yelling at the ref and so fourth by everybody

You are defending the headbutt incident? Wow, that says enough about your character dude.
The guy was in HOSPITAL!!!!!!! What the hell is wrong with you pal, you are a part time player with a lot of passion defending a dude who felt the need to turn back and head butt a referee!
Don't come on here and say you aren't condoning the actions, because you are!!! You are defending a guy who severely injured a referee that we are already short of in this province because of guys like this ASSAULTING them!
Who cares what the ref did, or how arrogant he may have been, or whatever! You can fill out a 'rate the ref' report and never have him again!
Please, you really are losing credibility and I've never even seen you post on here before. The guy assaulted a ref, he physically has impaired him for the rest of his life, and you are here defending him.

Ok, is it just me and Kylo that see this? Does ANYBODY else want to pipe in here? Are we looney? Am I wrong, because if I am can someone OTHER then Eusebio tell me so and I'll stop defending this ref whose life has been changed forever.

he never hit him, that is what i am saying i am not defending someone who headbutted the refferee i am simply saying that he did not and is getting reported as doing so i dont understand how you guys are reading my posts unless i am a complete moron and not explaining myself properly, he did not hit him and is now getting blamed for it i dont care what some report says from the ref, i was there and it was not what happened. sorry if you guys are not understanding me cause i would never defend someone who headbutts a referee. I am not a part time player i am a full time player on a few teams just a part time on this one to help out, i play with cope and and or braves in previous years and am not someone liike that at all MB7 jsut defending someone, as i am sure you would as well if a story was getting blown ou of proprotion if i see you in real life i will give u a demonstration of what happened and i am sure you would agree with me i love the game to much to disrepect it.

It is a shame that someone is getting accused of something that was totally exaggerated. there are many witnesses at that game who can vouch for the player who is being accused. i believe the term is innocent till proven guilty. This is a person’s reputation at stake here and the referee is taking this to an extreme level. If a referee invades the personal space of the player who defends the player?? No one! Maybe they should get some real referees on the fields and these issues wouldn’t happen. This is totally ridicules that people are even posting comments when they weren’t even present. Think to yourself, if it happened to you and you were wrongfully accused would you want people accusing you of something you didn’t do? Think twice before you talk. This was blown way out of proportion a long time ago! THE PLAYER ACCUSED DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO THE REFEREE! That is a statement from someone who was actually at the game. mb7, Kylo, Deek85 you obviously don’t know what you are talking about so just worry about your own concerns in life and stop accusing someone of something they didn’t do. Maybe once the accused is found innocent he can sue you guys for defamation of character. It would only be fair right! this is going to an extreme that you can't understand so watch what you say next.

Bottom line is no abuse in this league should happen to anyone participating in it. We are grown men and women, not savage hooligans vying for survival, not lacklustre contributions to society...... we are adults. Can only carry and present ourselves the way we want to be seen. It's up to each individual to choose their own path.

A discipline jury (or whomever else) will rule on this.... until then good luck with your respective campaigns. If my words seemed offensive it was not the intent... if you still insist on threatening me with weak accusations of pressing charges for defamation of character go for it... your case is pretty weak to be honest and I have a very good lawyer.

Other than that I wish all the individuals my sincerest and best.

~Kylo

I have read this entire thread and hopefully someone can clear this up for me. Did the player after being dismissed return to the field? Also is this player registered with the team in question meaning he is on the gamesheet?

Soccer18, I also have a smashing lawyer, bring your defamation on pal!
Euseb, I don't know pal, I said earlier it was hearsay and that is all I am bringing, no accusations.

I just don't get how if the guy needed surgery, deemed to need it by the doctors, then who the hell hit this referee?
Someone hit him, and if it were someone else other than the player stated, you better start flapping your gums elsewhere than on here and protect your boy. Otherwise, his football is finished for a long ten years!